REP. DEBBIE DINGELL (D-MICH.) IS INTERVIEWED ON FACE THE NATION

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March 16, 2025

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REP. DEBBIE DINGELL (D-MICH.)

REP. DEBBIE DINGELL (D-MICH.) IS INTERVIEWED ON FACE THE NATION

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REP. DEBBIE DINGELL (D-MICH.) IS INTERVIEWED ON FACE THE NATION

MARCH 16, 2025

SPEAKERS:

REP. DEBBIE DINGELL (D-MICH.)

MARGARET BRENNAN, HOST FACE THE NATION

MARGARET BRENNAN: We’re joined now by Michigan Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingell.

Good to have you here and a happy early St. Patrick’s Day.

REPRESENTATIVE DEBBIE DINGELL (D-MI): Top of the morning to you.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congresswoman, I want to talk about the impact of these tariffs and potential tariffs because you’re from the manufacturing hub of Michigan.

We were looking at the data. Michigan’s lost more than 220,000 manufacturing jobs over the past 30 years. The vice president was out in Michigan this week. He says this is — this entire Trump strategy is about industrial resurgence. Is that landing where you live?

REPRESENTATIVE DEBBIE DINGELL: So, I’m somebody that answers this differently than many. I believe that tariffs are a tool in the toolbox. And if you’ll recall, I said Donald Trump would win in 2016, and nobody believed me. And I was right. And it was one issue. It was trade. NAFTA was one of the worst pieces of trade legislation in the history of this country. It sent tons of jobs overseas. And President Trump came in. I worked with him. We renegotiated it. We have the USMCA.

The way that the tariffs are being done now is – it’s made a ping-pong ball of the auto industry. I think they’re a tool that we can look at. We need to using them against China. But I think they’re being selectively applied. The domestic auto companies are complying. There’s no way that in a month’s time, when they have such an integrated inventory and production plan – production plants where a part will go over the border several times to make the changes that need to happen.

So, I want to work with this administration. I think the 25 percent tariffs are too high. They’re placing an unfair burden. Autos are a ping-pong ball in a big war. I want to bring manufacturing home. I want to bring supply chains home. We needed industrial policy. Tariffs are part of it. Let’s just do it in a way that lets everybody plan for it.

MARGARET BRENNAN: The automakers, the big three, called President Trump. That was partly how this April 2nd push-off of some of these tariffs happened, their persuasion.

Do you have any idea how long it would take to build the kind of plants and to bring all the manufacturing home, like President Trump is asking of them?

REPRESENTATIVE DEBBIE DINGELL: So, if everything were go right, which, like in this world does anything ever go right, it’s going to take two to three years. Our – our suppliers, also, there are many – and, by the way, we need to immediately renegotiate USMCA. It’s time to look at it. And I think we need to be treating Mexico and Canada as different trading partners. Next –

MARGARET BRENNAN: You support this idea. Secretary Rubio was basically saying bilateral, not North America as a globe –

REPRESENTATIVE DEBBIE DINGELL: Totally. I totally – Canada would never let China build a plant in China and then market it as a North American vehicle. And we need to make sure that that never happens. I’m totally on board on that.

But right now, as we’re talking about the aluminum and the steel tariffs, two – 60 percent of aluminum in this country – that’s being used is be – coming in from Canada. You take a 25 percent tariff on that, the profit on automobiles is – is very small. It’s not a big – the companies just can’t eat that.

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