“Worse than Greece”: Is Japan’s Debt at Breaking Point?
across the world a couple of years ago, most governments were understandably anxious about its politically toxic consequences. Perhaps the one exception, however, was Japan, where policymakers were quietly optimistic that some supply side inflation could finally push Japan out of its deflationary funk and perhaps return Japan’s uniquely debt laden economy back to normality. Somewhat unsurprisingly, however, it turns out that normalizing monetary and fiscal policy when your debt’s GDP ratio is over 200% is pretty difficult. And last week, Prime Minister Shagaru Ishaba warned voters that quote, “Japan’s fiscal situation is worse than Greece’s.” Unfortunately for Ishaba, in the past couple of days, things have suddenly got a lot worse after a sharp sell-off in Japanese bonds pushed Japan’s long-term borrowing costs to unprecedented levels. So, in this video, we’re going to have a look at Japan’s efforts to normalize its economy, the looming debt crisis, and what might happen [Music] context. After World War II, Japan experienced decades of rapid economic growth with the Japanese economy growing by an average of 7% every year from 1955 to 1990. However, in the ’90s, Japan suffered from a series of economic shocks in quick succession. After a massive boom in the 80s, in the decade after 1990, residential house prices fell by more than 50%. Commercial property prices fell by something like 85% and Japan’s main stock index, the Nicay 225, fell by about 75%. Japan’s economy entered a period of stagnation with both growth and inflation falling close to zero. In an attempt to stimulate the economy and get it growing again, Japan’s central bank, the Bank of Japan, or BOJ, bought up billions of yen’s worth of government bonds, essentially printing money and giving it to the government to spend. This didn’t really work. And when the Japanese economy took yet another hit after the 2008 financial crisis, the BOJ also started buying up corporate debt, essentially printing money and giving it straight to Japanese companies. In this sense, the BOJ pioneered many of the techniques that Western central banks would go on to use after the 2008 financial crisis and the pandemic. Unfortunately for the BOJ, this still wasn’t enough to get Japan out of its stagflationary funk. And both growth and inflation stuck stubbornly close to zero. While the Japanese government’s debt burden ballooned to more than 240% of GDP, probably the highest in the world. That was until early 2022 when the inflationary shock that swept across the world pushed Japan’s annual inflation rate above 2% for the first time in nearly a decade. Japanese policy makers saw this as an opportunity to essentially bring the Japanese economy back to normality by using this inflationary episode to trigger a mild wage price spiral which would keep inflation persistently above zero. In other words, Japanese policymakers wanted workers to demand higher wages in the face of higher prices, which would mean more spending power for Japanese households and therefore higher prices, etc. Slightly higher inflation could also drive economic growth by encouraging Japanese households to spend money instead of saving it and letting inflation eat away at its real value. And well, this sort of happened. While wages lagged behind inflation in 2022 and 2023, in 2024, the average wage growth for workers at large companies came in at above 5%. The highest since 1991. Japanese policy makers were optimistic that once inflation had become self- sustaining, they could normalize monetary and fiscal policy. The BOJ wouldn’t have to constantly buy government and corporate debt to keep the economy out of deflation. And if inflation and growth were up, the Japanese government would enjoy higher tax revenues and so wouldn’t have to issue as much debt. If Japan could achieve these three things, persistent inflation, the end of quantitive easing, and relatively balanced budgets, its economy would suddenly look a lot more normal. However, it turns out transitioning from a stagflationary economy into a quote unquote normal economy is pretty difficult. For starters, that mild wage price spiral that policy makers were imagining has quickly become more severe. Inflation has stayed above the BOJ’s 2% target since 2022 and has actually risen in recent months to around 4%. Japanese consumers, who are used to stable prices, have reacted furiously at the recent price rises, especially for staple grains like rice, putting pressure on the government to cut its consumption tax. Furthermore, this inflation has forced the BOJ to raise its benchmark interest rate to 0.5%. The highest since 2008. This might not sound too high, but because Japan’s debt pile is so enormous, even a slight increase in interest rates causes a massive increase in servicing costs. Japan now expects to spend something like 32 trillion yen on debt servicing next year, representing about 5% of GDP, more than almost any other country. So, you get the idea. Japan’s attempt to normalize its economy has put massive pressure on the government’s finances, both because the cost of debt servicing has increased and because there’s renewed political pressure to ease the cost of living crisis. And this problem has suddenly started looking particularly acute in the past couple of days after Japan’s bond yield spiked to levels not seen in decades. The yield on both 30 and 40-year Japanese bonds, for instance, is currently over 3%. The highest Japan’s long-term borrowing costs have been since probably the 1980s. So, what happened here? Well, some of it’s a consequence of a similar rise in US bond yields with the yield on both 30 and 40-year treasuries spiking after Moody’s, one of the big credit rating agencies, downgraded America’s credit rating, citing America’s unsustainable debt burden. For complicated reasons, other countries bond yields generally track treasuries, which is why Japan, the UK, and European economies also an increase in long-term borrowing costs at the same time. Some of it was because of a conspicuously weak bond auction a couple of days ago when the Japanese government tried to issue more than 20-year bonds only to find out that no one really wanted to buy them. But perhaps the fundamental reason is that well the market just don’t think Japan can afford any more debt. Japan’s debt pile is already massive. Japanese growth is weak with GDP contracting in the first quarter of this year. And markets just don’t trust the Ishiba, who’s remarkably unpopular at the moment, has the political capital to impose the fiscal discipline required to make good on Japan’s debts. This all presents the Bank of Japan with a difficult dilemma. Does it trust Isha to sort out the fiscal mess? or does it restart buying government debt, easing the pressure on Ishiba, but tacitly admitting that Japan’s economy will probably never return to normality. This would also risk going a spanner into the ongoing trade negotiations with the US given that return to ultra loose monetary policy would probably weaken the yen, something Trump has complained about in the past. All in all, there doesn’t seem to be an easy way out of this fiscal mess, and it looks like bringing Japan’s economy back to normal will be frustratingly difficult.
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When inflation ticked up a few years ago, it brought anxiety to many governments – except for Japan who hoped to use the slightly higher inflation to get out of its zero-growth slump. But, that seems to have backfired, so, in this video, we’re taking a look at the Japanese economy, the debt crisis and what could happen next.
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1 – https://observingjapan.substack.com/p/ishibas-grecian-turn
2 – https://wolfstreet.com/2025/05/20/japans-30-year-and-40-year-bonds-crater-yields-spike-huge-mess-coming-home-to-roost-yen-carry-trade-at-risk/
3 – https://carnegieendowment.org/2010/03/18/japan-s-past-and-u.s.-future-pub-40356
4 – https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/japan-government-debt.png
5 – https://tradingeconomics.com/japan/inflation-cpi
6 – https://www.economist.com/asia/2024/07/01/japans-mind-bending-bento-box-economics
7 – https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h02044/
8 – https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/japan-release-more-rice-stockpiles-tackle-shortage-rein-prices-2025-05-16/
9 – https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/ie@FPP/ITA
10 – https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmubmusd30y?countrycode=bx
11 – https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmbmkgb-30y?countrycode=bx
12 – https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-20/japan-s-20-year-bond-auction-gets-weakest-demand-since-2012
13 – https://www.reuters.com/business/japans-economy-shrinks-us-tariff-hit-looms-2025-05-16/
00:00 – Introduction
01:27 – Context
03:02 – Japan Tries to Become “Normal”
04:34 – Why “Normal” is Harder Than It Looks
05:51 – The Debt Crisis
07:53 – Sponsored Content
44 Comments
There must be a reason why no gouvernment on earth ever chose the easy and obvious way out of fiscal trouble: tax the rich and corporations; stop spending on pet- projects and the military.
You see, this is why lack of immigration is a problem for politicians. When there are no immigrants to blame, the politicians actually have to take the blame!
I really hope Japan can overcome this.
Are you saying that trying to solve a stagnant economy through borrowing only makes things worse in the long term? color me surprised (looks at Germany, US, etc).
Japan has the highest debt to gdp ratio in major economies
Wait for a month and no one will remember this.
I remember everyone saying that we should all go down Japans route, strong welfare state zero immigration, and I just show them this, and they kind of deny it’s even a problem. It’s an economic time bomb.
Honestly Greece situation isnt all that bad, the problem with greece is the amount of incompetence and corruption from both the electorates and the politicians.
why is a 2% inflation even so desirable, why can't it be 0.2% instead.
The reason behjnd this is all USA
3:00 What's so great about inflation? 😕
No
As a non economist, it feels like the outcome of government chasing good numbers instead of focusing on producing actual value
Got to applaud Japan for being worse than Greece.
The situation is even worse when you consider that China has started to chip at Japans exports, specially at car market which is a sizeable chunk of GDP and employment.
The US also had a 20y bond yield auction yesterday that was so weak it almost failed. That led to another spike in the 20y yield (above 5.2%). It's likely the FED will have to intervene in the US bond market to save the dollar, before Trump starts flirting with default.
Japans problems started when America forced them to upvalue the yen and to buy more American. Japan should try to reverse this. Think about themselfs and not so much their alliance. Japan actually really need to just reboost their economy
Step 1. Funnel all the money to corporations
Step 2. Pray for inflation to devalue government debt
Step 3. Either barely remain fiscally stable or outright collapse if praying fails to work?
Step 4. Profit?????
Can an economist explain to me how this was supposed to work?
7:12 Damn bratty economy, trying to increase a budget deficit…
needs economic debt correction 💢💢👺👺
Error in the video: Stagflation is high unemployment and high inflation – which is not Japan
The maker's of this channel don't seem to understand the difference between a Currency User and a Currency Creator.
Japan has a big "debt" in a currency that only itself creates.
Have you ever had a debt to yourself?
Stephanie Kelton has a good book and videos on this issue.
I dont think this is such a problem. A sizeable buch of Japans bonds are still held by the central bank. This is not really debt. The government lends from itself and pays itself.
Japanese government bonds have a fixed interest rate. Japan NEEDS to increase taxes so that it doesn't need to take out more debt at higher interest rates to service their old debt.
The major problem for Japan is not the debt especially because most of it is held by Japan itself, ie the CBJ, local banks and companies.
The only problem for Japan is that at the pace the country is losing its people – around 600k every year since some time now – there is not going to be a Japan/Japanese by mid century or the Japanese left will be well over 70 years old.
As a former Japanese prime minister warned, if this population trend will continue, the country will stop working as a organized society…
For a second there I read that as James Bond Yields Surge and was very confused.
Bond. Japan Bond
It should be made clear that higher interest rates mainly affect new government debt as it is issued, not existing debt. But trying to eat a mountain of debt with inflation, while higher interest rates make new debt even worse, sounds like an easy job.
How is it stagflation if inflation was close to 0? By definition of the word: “Stagflation is the combination of high inflation, stagnant economic growth, and elevated unemployment” your terminology is incorrect.
Hi ya
Japan, the second laziest country in the world.
Second-to-last, above South Africa in productivity.
What a movie the Japanese are selling to the world.
Lowkey deflation is great. Japans price have stayed the same forever. They have the most house owners in the world
It is all a policy problem.
The problem in Japan for decades now has been that there is no way for small companies to grow, and the government, SINCE THE 90'S, has maintained "too big to fail" companies out of trouble, and they have become "zombie corporations", that just waste money and do not care because they will get saved by the goverment.
On the regulatory side, Japan is worse than even the EU, and they constantly add new regulation to new and edge technologies, that basically kills any real development of these technologies by small companies, meaning that only big companies can do anything in the country, but they just don't since the only real competition that they feel is from outside Japan, and they are now so out of touch that they are just trying to survive instead of innovate.
The whole "deflation" thing was the symptom, not the cause of Japan's economic woes.
The fact that decades of extravagant monetary policy did absolutely nothing kind of shows this to be the fact.
your mama is reaching breaking point.
INCREASE IMMIGRATION 📈📈📈
"Normal" means to tank the economy, like all developed countries are currently doing. I wish they would get out of this Keynesian economics pseudoscience. Japan should just sell all the US bonds they own. They own more than they owe.
Even if Japanese bonds turn into junk and Yen collapses, Japan still has about a trillion of US treasures to burn through to prop up current level of services, only after that, they would have to turn to IMF and become Argentinian style economy and decline to the same standards o living.
I did not realise Japan had that high of a debt to GDP, the only recent time I can think of where a large economy has had 200% plus debt to GDP is the UK after WW2 where they had 250%.
You telling me infinite debt isn’t sustainable forever????
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Japan is shit. They are good at Anime and making 1980s tech look shiny. Japanese car are old tech.
I am greek finally we are not the worst 😂
What is "normal' though?
Japan had a huge real estate bubble in the 1980's before its period of stagnation. Now you cinsider these 30 years of stagnation were not normal but at least they had 30 years where there was no cot of living crisis, no housing crunch and in fact where housing affordability was not even a question. now maybe this stagnation was not sustainable in the long run but the normalcy you yearn for is one of booms and busts. in fact, the reforms of the last couple years were encouraged by Wall Street and the result may be that ordinary folks suffer. also comparing Japan to Greece is doing neither a favor because the problems they face and their causes are very different. also, 90% of Japan's debt is held domestically so the issues are quite different. in any case, hopefully they can stabilize their economy, let the yen fall again to stimulate exports in short term but the biggest challenge is to really modernize it. Because this is the real cost of stagnation. they were at the forefront of technology but this is no longer the case. they lost out to Korea and China….
Or or or in a world where resources are limited we can't have unlimited growth year on year and continuing these systems will lead to inflation …… Or we can change to a economic system that is not hooked on growth and profitability ……
When the debt is in your own currency and you have your own central bank you can in theory just print your way out of it. So not worse than greece.